Why does it cost Coca-Cola more to produce a half-gallon of orange juice than a half gallon of Coke? How do we reverse this situation, such that healthful products are more affordable and unhealthy products are more costly?
Are food stamps an income support program–or as the program’s new name indicates, a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program? If it is a “supplemental nutrition” program, then shouldn’t USDA define which products are nutritious based on Institute of Medicine standards, and limit purchases to these products? USDA does this with the Women Infants and Children (WIC) program, which is widely touted for saving billions in health care costs.
If food stamps are an income support program, and anti-hunger advocates want to maximize poor people’s freedom of choice, then why shouldn’t food stamps be distributed as cash rather than as a debit card good for food purchases? Doesn’t receiving cash maximize a person’s dignity as it bestows trust upon that person that he or she will make the right choice with their money? Would food stamps not then become a welfare program, and be subject to the negative public perception of welfare?
The real story behind food stamps is that it is neither a nutrition program nor an income support program. It is a massive subsidy for the food retailers, grocery manufacturers, and industrial growers. That is why commodity groups, the Grocery Manufacturers of America and the Food Marketing Institute all line up behind the food stamp program every five years when the Farm Bill is being debated. They know the extra buying power food stamps provides to low income Americans will end up in their pockets.
In their noble effort to reduce human suffering and to improve the livelihood of the 41 million Americans on food stamps, anti-hunger advocates are caught in an ever-tightening bind. They frame food stamps as a nutrition program, because a nutrition program has more public support and more powerful allies in Congress than a welfare or income support program. Yet, burgeoning rates of chronic diseases and the growing presence of the public health community as a player in federal food and farm policy, translates into increased accountability for the nutritional impact of the food stamp program.
What boat are both camps missing?
You said succinctly exactly what I was trying to tell two Harlem food advocates last night who are concerned with the very choice issues you brought up. I would add two things:
1. To round out the injustice argument more fully, food stamps are the only area in which the government can dictate what we eat, giving the government "control" over the poor.
2. You say New York should redirect the money spent on food stamps elsewhere, but the amount of money given in foodstamps won't change, they are just hoping that instead of being spent on soda, it will be spent on healthier choices.
3. Many have been complaining that instead of this the government should spend on education and other programs. To that I would say, "They already are." Healthy Bucks, those gross-out soda ads on the subway and online, and subsidies for greencarts are all part of a concerted effort. This many just be the most controversial part of a multifaceted effort.
Two pounds of dried beans cost less than a bag of ramen - and offers 30 healthful servings. Oatmeal offers the same amount of servings for just a little more - but you have to know how to prepare these foods to take advantage of them.
My main conflict is this: why should we restrict food choices the poor make but make no impact on the food choices of the rest of the population? I think a policy like the one proposed can easily backfire and turn into a perceived attack on the poor and their food choices.
To me, the issue at hand is the issue of price. If unhealthy food is cheaper, people will buy it regardless of their income. There are plenty of wealthy elite who buy nothing but soda.
To really make a difference in everyone's buying habits--not just the poor--we should implement a soda tax as was proposed months ago by the city of New York. It would make soda more expensive and create a disincentive for everyone to buy it--similar to how cigarettes are currently sold.
Better to include a map of the local Chinatown markets where bulk items of cheap stuff are readily available. Hong Kong Supermarket accepts the food debit cards!
At the risk of sounding pedantic or "patronizing" (as some of these advocates might claim), perhaps the program should help guide people about which foods actually are nutritious, at a time when much of that "eduction" has been taken over by food industry marketing. The cries of "nanny state" only defend that industry and government policies and subsidies that are making so many people sick.
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Soda on the other hand is not harmful and the only reason to tax soda is to give the government more money to waste and use irresponsibly. We should be reducing the government size and budget not bloating it. The biggest problem of obesity in this country is our governments bloated obesity. Soda's neither harm nor help anyone. They simply are not worth your anger and misplaced desire to control other people's lives.
The WIC program that you mention has been very successful in maintaining these principles; indeed, it is a walking example of what the SNAP program should be. According to the USDA, health care costs of WIC participants have dropped noticeably because of the nutritional aspect of the program. The USDA estimates that every dollar that WIC participants spend saves them about three dollars in future health care costs. So while the prices of locally grown food or food purchased at farmer’s markets may be higher, as other comments have pointed out there are cheap, healthy alternatives AND these choices will save them money in the future. Whether we choose to accept it currently or not, the food we eat now has a direct influence on our health in the future, as shown by the information on the USDA website.
I could not agree more with your last paragraph. The key to eating healthy and sustainably is buying locally grown produce, and I think that the SNAP program, as a government and therefore taxpayer supported program, should make sure to acknowledge these facts. As a government, we should not support the mass produced and fossil fuel producing methods that mainstream, faceless grocery stores use. Just because those who can afford to choose to make the wrong choices sometimes does not mean that we should support other people making the same, wrong choices.
There is the reality of social classes based on economic disparity and there is the reality that the lowest of these classes receive money from the government to buy some (not enough) food. Given these two variables, to what extent should the government intervene in the manner by which these allocated funds are used? As several other comments have noted, it is true that indeed the government has already placed restrictions on food stamps—they cannot be used for alcohol, cigarettes, or hot, prepared meals to note a few. So, is it then beyond the scope of the federal government to add soda to this list?
I think the two opposing poles of this issue are succinctly stated in these two quotes from your article:
1) “The anti-hunger community is correct that historically, as a nation, we have treated the poor paternalistically.”
2) ““On the other hand, public health groups are dead-on accurate that it is irresponsible public policy to be subsidizing with tax dollars the purchase of unhealthy products that will burden society with increased health care costs in the future.”
You pit these two advocacy groups against one another, each raising important concerns. However I think the crux of this problem is embodied by a subsequent question, which you yourself ask: “Why does it cost Coca-Cola more to produce a half-gallon of orange juice than a half gallon of Coke? How do we reverse this situation, such that healthful products are more affordable and unhealthy products are more costly?”
This is the question that not only afflicts SNAP recipients but all consumers of the deficient American food-system. Our energies as food activists might be better served by looking to resolve such inquiries in the long-term. Yes, it is true that reversing this situation cannot happen overnight and we may very well still need to deal with such conflicting issues as whether to tax soda or forbid the most impoverished Americans from purchasing soda with tax dollars. However, if we as a nation can successfully and sustainably answer to these provocative questions, this is not a dilemma we will need to grapple with for it will no longer be relevant.
Really? I went to public schools (albeit in a middle class suburb) and the meals were limited to hot dogs, hamburgers, and white bread. All unhealthy, heavily-subsidized / surplus corporate crap.
The WIC program limits what individuals can buy, and not in favor of "healthy" choices. In many places, organic produce or grains are off-limits. Infant formula and sugary cereals are subsidized.
My old neighborhood co-op was forced to carry conventional produce and General Mills products in order to cater to WIC recipients.
I work in the natural foods industry. So does my partner and most of our friends. As a result, we are very low-income and SNAP-eligible.
Where are the voices of low-income individuals, WIC recipients, and food stamp recipients? We KNOW these programs are flawed- but more importantly, our food systems are unjust and unsustainable. We need to challenge these systems! We do not need a bunch of "experts" and patronizing yuppies wringing their hands over our choices.
As far as the soda ban, I am 100% in favor of it. *We already provide SNAP and WIC participants and retailers with guidelines, this would just be another one.
*I don't buy the slippery slope argument that this can only lead to more restrictions.
*It is crucial that we create food environments that are able to support the nutritional needs of the poor (and everyone else) so that people can actually make the healthy food choices we invest heavily in promoting.
*I feel the need to bring up the argument that calling carbonated water mixed with processed sugar "food" is quite a stretch of the definition.
I also love how people are turning this into "You can't tell people what to do just because of their socio-economic status, it's just not right". Um, that's NOT why we're trying to protect their health. We're trying to limit their non-nutritious high-fructose dietary intake because a) it kills, b) when they get sick, we have to pay for that too, and c) it's soda, they'll live without it. Plus, I think it's pretty damn unfair that I pay taxes and struggle to make ends meet each month, and consequently almost never drink soda because I can't afford it (I fill up my water bottles at public water fountains instead), and yet people are getting their panties in a bunch about protecting the rights of people to slowly kill themselves AND enjoy things that other contributing Americans don't? Just doesn't seem right to me.