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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, me again.

I was thinking about Avery&#039;s argument that the world cannot feed itself without chemical agriculture.

Earlier I offered a counter-argument to Avery&#039;s assertion that the population is growing quickly. 

I argued that world fertility has halved in one generation to just 2.6 babies per woman.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true

I now want to add that even if the population does grow (as predicted by the doomsayers) to nine billion, organic could STILL feed the world!

http://www.counterpunch.org/gray03102010.html

Add organic farming to other ecological approaches such as land restoration http://hopeinachangingclimate.org/press/index.html and bio-char http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/biochar_an_answer.php ...and we would be laughing all the way to a sustainable organic future with healthy soil, animals and people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, me again.</p>
<p>I was thinking about Avery&#8217;s argument that the world cannot feed itself without chemical agriculture.</p>
<p>Earlier I offered a counter-argument to Avery&#8217;s assertion that the population is growing quickly. </p>
<p>I argued that world fertility has halved in one generation to just 2.6 babies per woman.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true</a></p>
<p>I now want to add that even if the population does grow (as predicted by the doomsayers) to nine billion, organic could STILL feed the world!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/gray03102010.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/gray03102010.html</a></p>
<p>Add organic farming to other ecological approaches such as land restoration <a href="http://hopeinachangingclimate.org/press/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://hopeinachangingclimate.org/press/index.html</a> and bio-char <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/biochar_an_answer.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/biochar_an_answer.php</a> &#8230;and we would be laughing all the way to a sustainable organic future with healthy soil, animals and people!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://civileats.com/2010/04/16/organic-is-not-marketing-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-6245</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the anti-organic speakers:

Sir John Krebs was criticised during his tenure at the Food Standards Agency (FSA) for his unobjective pro-GM stance

(http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/mar/14/research.foodanddrink)

The FSA&#039;s own independent review &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.food.gov.uk/aboutus/how_we_work/historyfsa/deanreview&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;showed&lt;/a&gt; that under Krebs&#039; tenure, the FSA was seen as having departed from its objective of relying on scientific evidence.

(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/10/thedoublestandardsagency&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/10/thedoublestandardsagency&lt;/a&gt;)

Meanwhile Dennis Avery is considered an anti-organic spin-master
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Dennis_Avery&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Dennis_Avery&lt;/a&gt;

Avery&#039;s doom-mongering population-explosion projections are out-of-date. 

Statistics show world fertility has halved to just 2.6 babies per woman.

(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true&lt;/a&gt;)

So-called &#039;conventional&#039; farming is a 50-year-old blip in agriculture - and by wheeling out Krebs and Avery, is clearly in its death throes. 

Organic farming is tried-and-tested. This sustainable method has fed us for 10,000 years and - allied to the latest in biological and ecological sciences and clever low-tech solutions - is CLEARLY the farming of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the anti-organic speakers:</p>
<p>Sir John Krebs was criticised during his tenure at the Food Standards Agency (FSA) for his unobjective pro-GM stance</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/mar/14/research.foodanddrink" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/mar/14/research.foodanddrink</a>)</p>
<p>The FSA&#8217;s own independent review <a href="http://www.food.gov.uk/aboutus/how_we_work/historyfsa/deanreview" rel="nofollow">showed</a> that under Krebs&#8217; tenure, the FSA was seen as having departed from its objective of relying on scientific evidence.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/10/thedoublestandardsagency" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/sep/10/thedoublestandardsagency</a>)</p>
<p>Meanwhile Dennis Avery is considered an anti-organic spin-master<br />
<a href="http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Dennis_Avery" rel="nofollow">http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Dennis_Avery</a></p>
<p>Avery&#8217;s doom-mongering population-explosion projections are out-of-date. </p>
<p>Statistics show world fertility has halved to just 2.6 babies per woman.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.100-the-shock-of-the-old-welcome-to-the-elderly-age.html?full=true</a>)</p>
<p>So-called &#8216;conventional&#8217; farming is a 50-year-old blip in agriculture &#8211; and by wheeling out Krebs and Avery, is clearly in its death throes. </p>
<p>Organic farming is tried-and-tested. This sustainable method has fed us for 10,000 years and &#8211; allied to the latest in biological and ecological sciences and clever low-tech solutions &#8211; is CLEARLY the farming of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Civil Eats » Blog Archive » Organic Is Not Marketing Hype &#124; Blogavert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Civil Eats » Blog Archive » Organic Is Not Marketing Hype &#124; Blogavert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FoodFitnessFreshair</title>
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		<dc:creator>FoodFitnessFreshair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe organic is fashionable, but only because it does so much to help the environment and the creatures that inhabit it.  The conventional farming industry is ridding our produce shelves of variety and polluting the environment to death. If we put more money and focus into creating innovative ways to grow organic food, then who is to say we couldn&#039;t fight hunger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe organic is fashionable, but only because it does so much to help the environment and the creatures that inhabit it.  The conventional farming industry is ridding our produce shelves of variety and polluting the environment to death. If we put more money and focus into creating innovative ways to grow organic food, then who is to say we couldn&#8217;t fight hunger?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 17 year vegetarian (10 vegan), I have a lot of concerns about animal welfare and the meat industry.  Though some companies have made strides in improving animal welfare, I think a lot of the companies that market themselves as organic, free-range or animal-welfare-friendly are misleading customers.  And most consumers are gullible and believe all the claims, because they don&#039;t want to think too much about the suffering of the animals on their plates.  There are still lots of environmental, health and ethical problems even with &quot;free-range&quot; and organic meat , dairy, egg and chicken products.  Many companies that advertize their products as &quot;free range&quot; actually keep their animals inside most of the time.  And they are slaughtered in the same manner as conventional farm animals.  I am happy that more consumers are interested in more humanely-produced meat, chicken and dairy products but I think that best way to reduce farm animal suffering and help the climate and environment is to simply leave animal products off your plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 17 year vegetarian (10 vegan), I have a lot of concerns about animal welfare and the meat industry.  Though some companies have made strides in improving animal welfare, I think a lot of the companies that market themselves as organic, free-range or animal-welfare-friendly are misleading customers.  And most consumers are gullible and believe all the claims, because they don&#8217;t want to think too much about the suffering of the animals on their plates.  There are still lots of environmental, health and ethical problems even with &#8220;free-range&#8221; and organic meat , dairy, egg and chicken products.  Many companies that advertize their products as &#8220;free range&#8221; actually keep their animals inside most of the time.  And they are slaughtered in the same manner as conventional farm animals.  I am happy that more consumers are interested in more humanely-produced meat, chicken and dairy products but I think that best way to reduce farm animal suffering and help the climate and environment is to simply leave animal products off your plate.</p>
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