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		<title>By: Suburban Farming? &#124; AMNP</title>
		<link>http://civileats.com/2009/12/03/inventing-the-suburban-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-4844</link>
		<dc:creator>Suburban Farming? &#124; AMNP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elena Maria</title>
		<link>http://civileats.com/2009/12/03/inventing-the-suburban-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-4835</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a growing realization of what our &quot;needs&quot; are.

Many of us believe that we &quot;need&quot; a large car. (or a car of any kind).
Many of us also believe that we &quot;need&quot; to eat meat on a regular basis.

If we were to challenge both the &quot;needs&quot; for 1) privately owned vehicles and for 2) the steady consumption of factory farm-raised beef and chicken,we might find ourselves as humans to be far healthier (physically,spiritually and emotionally).  Certainly the rest of our co-habitants on this globe would also reap the benefits of these &quot;sacrifices&quot;  Furthermore,  we wouldn&#039;t continually find ourselves in such a dire position vis a vis the over-consumption of the earth&#039;s limited resources.  
The suburban mall as organic farm concept represents the fulfillment of a beautiful dream- a dream of &#039;healing&#039; and nurturing many of our most defiled man-made landscapes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a growing realization of what our &#8220;needs&#8221; are.</p>
<p>Many of us believe that we &#8220;need&#8221; a large car. (or a car of any kind).<br />
Many of us also believe that we &#8220;need&#8221; to eat meat on a regular basis.</p>
<p>If we were to challenge both the &#8220;needs&#8221; for 1) privately owned vehicles and for 2) the steady consumption of factory farm-raised beef and chicken,we might find ourselves as humans to be far healthier (physically,spiritually and emotionally).  Certainly the rest of our co-habitants on this globe would also reap the benefits of these &#8220;sacrifices&#8221;  Furthermore,  we wouldn&#8217;t continually find ourselves in such a dire position vis a vis the over-consumption of the earth&#8217;s limited resources.<br />
The suburban mall as organic farm concept represents the fulfillment of a beautiful dream- a dream of &#8216;healing&#8217; and nurturing many of our most defiled man-made landscapes!</p>
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		<title>By: Architect has solution for empty big boxes&#160;&#124;&#160;Birmingham Weekly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Architect has solution for empty big boxes&#160;&#124;&#160;Birmingham Weekly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reviving rapidly declining older suburbs in his new article “Inventing the suburban farm” at www.civileats.com.            blog comments powered by Disqus  var disqus_url = [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Suburban farming &#171; East Tennessee Community Design Center Blog</title>
		<link>http://civileats.com/2009/12/03/inventing-the-suburban-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-4819</link>
		<dc:creator>Suburban farming &#171; East Tennessee Community Design Center Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Suburban farming, turning abandonded big box retail locations into suburban farming and eating venues. See article at inventing-the-suburban-farm [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to see wasted space, but if urban or suburban farming goes mainstream, I worry about the use of fertilizers and pesticides being used by untrained people.  These gardens won&#039;t be organic.  When people start getting frustrated by low yields or too much being eaten by bugs they will turn to chemicals to help.  Your local golf course has more run-off than a well managed farm.  That will soon be coming to your city block.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to see wasted space, but if urban or suburban farming goes mainstream, I worry about the use of fertilizers and pesticides being used by untrained people.  These gardens won&#8217;t be organic.  When people start getting frustrated by low yields or too much being eaten by bugs they will turn to chemicals to help.  Your local golf course has more run-off than a well managed farm.  That will soon be coming to your city block.</p>
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		<title>By: Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for those comments. I think Peter is right about some kind of public-private venture. That would depend on making a great case to a municipality about the greater good.  I think the co-op is a great suggestion too.  I am hoping to work out some of the pragmatic issues mentioned here soon. Hope to make progress and keep everyone updated.  I&#039;d love to get more advice from anyone who has experience with these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for those comments. I think Peter is right about some kind of public-private venture. That would depend on making a great case to a municipality about the greater good.  I think the co-op is a great suggestion too.  I am hoping to work out some of the pragmatic issues mentioned here soon. Hope to make progress and keep everyone updated.  I&#8217;d love to get more advice from anyone who has experience with these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t the real estate be too expensive for a farm to support? If people couldn&#039;t afford $2.00/lb tomatoes in the store that closed they won&#039;t be able to pay any more to the parking lot farm. Even as large as a big box parking lot is, it is still pretty small to be profitable.

But! Force the land back into public hands and organize grower co-ops and you might be on to sometin&#039;. Put small businesses and people to work tearing up the black top, making improvements then the people who do the growing will have jobs too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t the real estate be too expensive for a farm to support? If people couldn&#8217;t afford $2.00/lb tomatoes in the store that closed they won&#8217;t be able to pay any more to the parking lot farm. Even as large as a big box parking lot is, it is still pretty small to be profitable.</p>
<p>But! Force the land back into public hands and organize grower co-ops and you might be on to sometin&#8217;. Put small businesses and people to work tearing up the black top, making improvements then the people who do the growing will have jobs too.</p>
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		<title>By: warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some thoughts. Could&#039;nt you subdivide the old big-box spaces for use by several businesses? Are animals included in these plans, for eggs, dairy, meat and the much needed manure? Arent these parcels of unused retail often somebody&#039;s precious tax write-off? Looking foward to this issue of Dwell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some thoughts. Could&#8217;nt you subdivide the old big-box spaces for use by several businesses? Are animals included in these plans, for eggs, dairy, meat and the much needed manure? Arent these parcels of unused retail often somebody&#8217;s precious tax write-off? Looking foward to this issue of Dwell.</p>
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		<title>By: Risa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Risa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this idea and I have a version of it going on right now in rural KY.  I am from the city and now I own 30 acres that I have turned into a organic farming/picking/future restuarant adventure.  I love the idea of picking your food, watching it be prepared and then eating it!  I want my kids to think of this process as normal, rather than waiting in line at McDonalds to eat non-fresh, very unhealthy, salty, greasy stuff in a bag.  In my organic farm, I have 23 raised vegetable boxes with 30 different produce items.  If I can do this, I sure hope other people will catch this disease of organic, healthy eating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this idea and I have a version of it going on right now in rural KY.  I am from the city and now I own 30 acres that I have turned into a organic farming/picking/future restuarant adventure.  I love the idea of picking your food, watching it be prepared and then eating it!  I want my kids to think of this process as normal, rather than waiting in line at McDonalds to eat non-fresh, very unhealthy, salty, greasy stuff in a bag.  In my organic farm, I have 23 raised vegetable boxes with 30 different produce items.  If I can do this, I sure hope other people will catch this disease of organic, healthy eating.</p>
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		<title>By: Farming Suburbia &#171; Ordinary Strangeness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farming Suburbia &#171; Ordinary Strangeness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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