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	<title>Comments on: True Cost Pricing the Food on the Table</title>
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		<title>By: Theo Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://civileats.com/2008/08/27/true-cost-pricing-the-food-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Theo Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the question, Milt.  We all have to keep talking and acting at every level, that&#039;s what ownership of our food systems require!

Basically your question requires, but what are we doing while we&#039;re moving towards true cost pricing as embracing true cost pricing redefines our economy.  Initial steps includes a) access, b) the full use and distribution of food through the culture and practices emphasizing fairness and the reduction of waste at every level of food systems--redistribution of food from restaurants or at the end of farmer&#039;s markets, provide micro-loans for community kitchens to capture all value from seasonal crops, possibly even building in an added social value a percentage social cost indicator; use of buildings for &quot;city seconds&quot; as policies by mayor and governors and benefits for small entrepreneurs to get the food to the underserved populations you are championing to ensure access to good food and dignity for folks on fixed incomes and those who have fallen on hard times.  Certainly grow Victory Gardens in as many commons as possible, like the gorgeous one in San Francisco…which needs to become a Victory Garden in fact! like the one that was there in 1929 that fed the people who needed the food.

Michael Nischan of Wholesome Wave Foundation proposed some extraordinary ideas.  Strategies include farmers being enabled to sell at &quot;white table cloth&quot; communities, charge what they need to charge, sell out, and afford to sell at a wholesale reduced price to poor communities and everyone being totally fine with that as the environmental, social, governance, and financial bottom lines are all being engaged. He also noted successful programs of doubling food stamps if they are spent at these kinds of markets.

People&#039;s Grocery has two GRUB baskets: a) $24, a great value when it costs $18 to produce, to those of us who want their CSA-GRUB box, and $12 to under served community members--an awesome price for a substantive bag of local organic produce and fruit.

Paying just wages, universal health care, getting us out of Iraq and redirecting--what is it? 0h! $573 Billion, are the kinds of effective resource allocation that will address your issues as well.  These are the kinds of issues that true cost pricing addresses.

So while we really take on systemic solutions like true cost pricing, we can do a great deal towards mitigating the disparity of access to good food. A good recipe could include 1) a conscious culture of celebrating interdependence and full resource use--on which all million-year old ecosystems are based; 2) the addition of human qualities of dignity and fairness; and 3) leavened with micro loans for entrepreneurial ingenuity.

Don’t forget, Milt, that all the inner city marginalized families with no access to good food are likely to have not only Type 2 Diabetes and heart diseases and obesity, but also trips to the emergency rooms from gang fights and time in Juvenile Justice and the full treatment at the Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation.  50% of Hispanic youth are involved with the juvenile justice system or DCR. African American youth are running a close second. I am happy to share the statistics.  These are all negative downstream costs—hidden taxpayer costs also paid by those with fixed incomes.  Ask me for a copy of Growing Good Food Language and print out a copy of the Sierra Club’s True Cost of Food Discussion Guide.

Again, Milt, I appreciate the question and, let&#039;s all get in there and create a food system, marketplace, and democracy based on good, clean, fair, and true cost priced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the question, Milt.  We all have to keep talking and acting at every level, that&#8217;s what ownership of our food systems require!</p>
<p>Basically your question requires, but what are we doing while we&#8217;re moving towards true cost pricing as embracing true cost pricing redefines our economy.  Initial steps includes a) access, b) the full use and distribution of food through the culture and practices emphasizing fairness and the reduction of waste at every level of food systems&#8211;redistribution of food from restaurants or at the end of farmer&#8217;s markets, provide micro-loans for community kitchens to capture all value from seasonal crops, possibly even building in an added social value a percentage social cost indicator; use of buildings for &#8220;city seconds&#8221; as policies by mayor and governors and benefits for small entrepreneurs to get the food to the underserved populations you are championing to ensure access to good food and dignity for folks on fixed incomes and those who have fallen on hard times.  Certainly grow Victory Gardens in as many commons as possible, like the gorgeous one in San Francisco…which needs to become a Victory Garden in fact! like the one that was there in 1929 that fed the people who needed the food.</p>
<p>Michael Nischan of Wholesome Wave Foundation proposed some extraordinary ideas.  Strategies include farmers being enabled to sell at &#8220;white table cloth&#8221; communities, charge what they need to charge, sell out, and afford to sell at a wholesale reduced price to poor communities and everyone being totally fine with that as the environmental, social, governance, and financial bottom lines are all being engaged. He also noted successful programs of doubling food stamps if they are spent at these kinds of markets.</p>
<p>People&#8217;s Grocery has two GRUB baskets: a) $24, a great value when it costs $18 to produce, to those of us who want their CSA-GRUB box, and $12 to under served community members&#8211;an awesome price for a substantive bag of local organic produce and fruit.</p>
<p>Paying just wages, universal health care, getting us out of Iraq and redirecting&#8211;what is it? 0h! $573 Billion, are the kinds of effective resource allocation that will address your issues as well.  These are the kinds of issues that true cost pricing addresses.</p>
<p>So while we really take on systemic solutions like true cost pricing, we can do a great deal towards mitigating the disparity of access to good food. A good recipe could include 1) a conscious culture of celebrating interdependence and full resource use&#8211;on which all million-year old ecosystems are based; 2) the addition of human qualities of dignity and fairness; and 3) leavened with micro loans for entrepreneurial ingenuity.</p>
<p>Don’t forget, Milt, that all the inner city marginalized families with no access to good food are likely to have not only Type 2 Diabetes and heart diseases and obesity, but also trips to the emergency rooms from gang fights and time in Juvenile Justice and the full treatment at the Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation.  50% of Hispanic youth are involved with the juvenile justice system or DCR. African American youth are running a close second. I am happy to share the statistics.  These are all negative downstream costs—hidden taxpayer costs also paid by those with fixed incomes.  Ask me for a copy of Growing Good Food Language and print out a copy of the Sierra Club’s True Cost of Food Discussion Guide.</p>
<p>Again, Milt, I appreciate the question and, let&#8217;s all get in there and create a food system, marketplace, and democracy based on good, clean, fair, and true cost priced.</p>
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		<title>By: Milt Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://civileats.com/2008/08/27/true-cost-pricing-the-food-on-the-table/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Milt Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think this is a valuable and viable way to go, I also reflect on those who can&#039;t afford it. particularly those on low, fixed incomes. Also, those on no incomes who day in and day out need more money and time to enjoy what you are proposing. Where do they fit in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think this is a valuable and viable way to go, I also reflect on those who can&#8217;t afford it. particularly those on low, fixed incomes. Also, those on no incomes who day in and day out need more money and time to enjoy what you are proposing. Where do they fit in?</p>
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